This is “From a Different Point of View”, an article in which I discuss a comic series with another writer. In this case it is Eileen Gonzalez Who will go over the history of the Avengers with me, story by story!

The last time we checked in with our heroes in Avengers # 79, “Lo! The Lethal Legion!” By Roy Thomas, John Buscema, and Tom Palmer, the Avengers were being led into a trap by the new team of supervillains, the Lethal Legion, consisting of the Grim Reaper and a group of Avengers villains from the C roster. former enemy, Man-Ape, and the others responded to his warning that the baddies were plotting a trap by pretending they had been captured. Vision appears dressed as one of the villains and hands some papers to Grim Reaper, who discovers that Vision’s mind is based on Reaper’s dead brother Wonder Man, and Reaper freaks out just in time for the Avengers to escape and defeat. to the villains. The Vision, however, is haunted by the idea of ​​being seen as the Grim Reaper’s “brother”, so he abandons the Avengers, feeling that he will never be able to be a human being and that he needs time alone to think about his feelings. .

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This brings us to Avengers # 80, “The Arrival of Red Wolf!” by Roy Thomas, John Buscema and Tom Palmer

Brian Cronin: There is a cliché on the cover of a comic

Brian Cronin: That was FREQUENTLY used in 1960s DC war comics

Brian Cronin: To the point of, well, you know, being cliché

Brian Cronin: That involved the main characters who weren’t aware of imminent danger and said things like “Well, the good thing is, there are no Nazis on this corner.

Brian Cronin: Or whatever.

Brian Cronin: Thought about this with Thor’s strange dialogue on the cover of this comic.

Eileen Gonzalez: I was so busy laughing at Thor’s ignorance that I almost forgot to be offended by this cover. Almost.

Eileen Gonzalez: Perhaps a helmet and long hair are blocking your hearing.

Eileen Gonzalez: How else could an attacking wolf get lost snarling right behind him?

Brian CroninBesides, why would I believe that someone would lie about a man and a wolf lurking nearby?

Brian CroninBesides, why would four Avengers go out to investigate the sighting of a man and a wolf?

Brian Cronin: “We need to gather the Big Three! Someone said a man and a wolf were nearby!”

Eileen Gonzalez: “And bring the Vision! He’s cool with animals, or something!”

Brian CroninRoy Thomas will often work on clever literary references on these Avengers themes.

Brian Cronin: And other times, it does this.

Eileen Gonzalez: Yes, this poem is bad. It’s a shame, because this opening would be great otherwise.

Brian Cronin: It’s from the Americanized version of the British counting game, “Tinker Tailor”.

Brian Cronin: The novel (and the multiple film and television adaptations) Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy was based on it.

Brian Cronin: But yes, it is strange.

Brian Cronin: And it’s a shame because, as you can tell, Buscema and Palmer are KILLING it in the opening in another way.

Brian Cronin: This is Vision’s debut re dux

Eileen Gonzalez: I wonder why Vision was walking down the street in fake human garb. Only in the last issue, he left because he recognized that he would never be human, and now just … pretending to be human? Why?

Brian Cronin: The ax shot almost hitting the guy was amazing.

Eileen Gonzalez: Yeah, the whole opening sequence looks like it belongs in a great Batman comic.

Brian Cronin: I must say, however, that the thief’s logic was sound

Brian Cronin: “His shadow is scaring me. If I shoot him, there will be no more shadow.”

Brian Cronin: That verifies.

Eileen Gonzalez: I also love how his main concern is not luring the police to him, or that he is about to murder a guy for having a shadow.

Eileen Gonzalez: At least he’s a lousy shooter.

Brian Cronin: And Thomas even explains that, by making the guy kindly point out that his nerves are making him shoot wildly.

Brian Cronin: And yes, as you noticed, the sight of Vision losing his disguise is amazing.

Brian Cronin: Think how that should look like?

Eileen Gonzalez: It’s New York in the Marvel universe. Civilians must be used to seeing unconscious bodies and “ghosts” on the street.

Brian Cronin: They probably think it’s a publicity stunt for a rubber mask company. “

Eileen Gonzalez: Exactly! Or a trench coat company.

Eileen Gonzalez: Wow, this Red Wolf guy is really tough. He doesn’t even give a long speech before grabbing this other guy and trying to throw him into a hole.

Brian Cronin: Good to know that Vision respects human life.

Brian Cronin: “And I’m not even human and I respect human life! Crazy, right?”

Eileen Gonzalez: It’s a wonder he ever left the Avengers. Who else can he monologue with about how he’s not human?

Eileen Gonzalez: However, he is a little less considerate of the wolf. It could have become intangible so as not to hurt him instead of becoming hard as a diamond.

Brian Cronin: I wonder if we could have used a better demonstration of Red Wolf’s abilities

Brian Cronin: Than getting kicked in the butt by a guy much more powerful than him.

Eileen Gonzalez: Yeah, it doesn’t last long, does it? To be fair, we found out later that this is basically his first time as a superhero, so maybe he just needs to practice.

Eileen Gonzalez: And another costume. Please give him another costume.

Brian Cronin: Yes, we better get in now.

Brian Cronin: Once again, it is clear that Thomas’s motives here were sincere.

Brian Cronin: And yet the execution was more than a little poor.

Eileen GonzalezImagine all the stereotypes about Native Americans you’ve ever heard of. It will be in this story. But yeah, I don’t think Thomas meant to hurt. In fact, history clearly shows that he is on the side of Red Wolf (except for the murder part).

Eileen Gonzalez: And then Vision is like “My hooded assailant appears to be an American Indian!” What does that mean? How do you know???

Brian Cronin: It’s kind of adorable that the Avengers Vision game lasted, how long, six pages?

Eileen Gonzalez: Yeah, you don’t even consider handling this on your own. His immediate response is to ask the Avengers for help, which is pretty cool, actually.

Okay folks, join us next time to talk about Avengers # 80. In the meantime, feel free to email me at [email protected] if you have any thoughts on these Avengers topics and / or discussions.

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