TheWrap mind-melds with the Oscar-winning writer and producer about crafting the new Paramount+ series
I certainly can’t, but then I need a life.
All this is a just roundabout way of welcoming to the franchise a new series called “Star Trek: Strange New Worlds.” A spinoff of sorts of “Star Trek: Discovery” — the 2017 show that was the first of a new breed of Treks that lately have been multiplying like Tribbles on Paramount+ — it too takes place in the 23rd Century, about 10 years before Kirk commanded theEnterprise. Only this show orbits around Kirk’s predecessor, Captain Christopher Pike, a recurring character in the canon going way back to Gene Roddenberry’s original 1964 pilot episode, played this time, with a happy pinch of his own spaceman swagger, by “Hell on Wheels” star Anson Mount. Ethan Peck (grandson of Gregory) puts on pointy ears to star as young Spock, Rebecca Romijn is Number One, Pike’s second in command, Celia Rose Gooding is Uhura as a cadet, and there’s a bunch of new characters, as well, including Melissa Navia as Erica Ortegas, Star Trek’s first Latina pilot.
And, of course, there’s the Enterprise itself, given a slick, Apple Store-style makeover that nevertheless still lovingly references many of the 1960s set’s core elements (the boxy Captain’s chair, Spock’s sensor scope). More than just replicating the classic bridge, though, the show returns to the original series’ old-fashioned narrative format, taking viewers on an episodic adventure through the galaxy, with every hour serving up a whole new world and new civilization.
The brains behind it all is Akiva Goldsman, 59, a former “Fringe” scribe who is also a bigshot Hollywood writer (“A Beautiful Mind,” “The Client”) and producer (“Mr. & Mrs. Smith,” “I Am Legend”). On the eve of “Strange New World’s” May 5 premiere, I opened up a hailing frequency to the show’s creator and engaged in a bit of Vulcan mind-melding of our own.
TheWrap: There was a scene in “Discovery” a season or two ago when the Enterprise shows up towards the end of an episode. It was a super exciting moment. Was that where the idea for this show came from?
Goldsman: There are very few things in “Star Trek” that I can say are my idea, but this show is my idea. And it happened by accident.
[Back in 2016], before “Discovery” launched, I had heard that Alex Kurtzman, who’d I worked with on “Fringe,” and Bryan Fuller were making a new show. It was shrouded in secrecy. All I knew was that it was a “Star Trek” series. And then Alex called me and said he needed a little help on it. Could I go in and kind of pull some things together. So I went on the internet and on the internet there were these endless rumors that the show was going to be about Captain Pike and Number One. I’m an old die-hard “Star Trek” fan, so I thought that was the greatest thing I ever heard. I’m thinking, “Oh my God! That’s so exciting!” But then I get there and the show they were making couldn’t have had less to do with Captain Pike and Number One.
So, from that moment on, I began agitating for this show. That’s how the Enterprise ended up at the end of “Discovery”’s second season and how Pike and Spock turned up on that show. It was because all I’d been doing was trying to drive us back to the idea of this show. That’s the show I always wanted to see. Now I guess we’ll see if it’s the show other people want to see.
The series is a basketful of easter eggs. I mean, in the first episode, you bring back Kirk’s brother, Samuel — with the mustache!
Goldsman: [laughing] Almost the whole show is made of easter eggs! There are boxes and boxes of them. The ship itself is an easter egg! For those of us who are weirdly obsessive about this stuff, you can freeze frame this show and find things. But, for those who don’t give a flying fuck about “Star Trek,” it should still be a fun show and a good show and at times an emotional show. And that’s the trick — are we holding faith with both audiences? If we are proportionally close, we’re going to be okay.
The thing about those easter eggs, though, is that by their nature they appeal to older viewers. Is that the demographic you are aiming for here? And are there enough classic fans left in the world for this to work?
Goldsman: I don’t know, and that’s the truth. I find the metrics of streaming really elusive. You know, in the old days, you kind of knew what you were going for in terms of the audience. That was certainly true with movies, and I think with TV too, although that’s not really where I made my bones. But this idea now that streaming becomes more streaming — to me, that feels a bit like you’re putting a lure in the water and hoping that the kind of fish that likes that lure swims towards it. Today you can make a show for, like, 11 people, if Netflix thinks those 11 people can somehow get the marketplace penetration that they need. So, in a weird way, you are kind of doing things for reasons you can’t fathom. You just have to make them.
The idea of making this show episodic rather than serialized — with a contained plot line in each episode rather than a soap opera-like continuing storyline that unfurls through a season — that’s not very common on TV anymore. “Discovery” and the other Trek show you’ve worked on, “Picard,” are serialized. Is episode easier or harder?
Goldsman: We leaned deeply into serialized in the other “Trek” shows but it’s a lot of heavy lifting. You’ve got to keep everything straight and your storytelling is deeply interconnected and you always run the risk of not having enough plot climax because every plot is a piece of a larger plot and always your first episode is darker so your last episode can be redemptive — it’s a bitch. So the idea of doing an episodic series was kind of a relief. It’s a little liberating. And the other thing is, only in episodic TV can you get away with the more O’Henry-esque, more Twilight Zone-ish stories that turn, where you think it’s going one way and then it invests to teach you a lesson. That’s something you can only do with episodic.
It also allows you a wider range in tone, right?
Goldsman: That’s something we really wanted to do—give the show the versatility of tone that the original series had. We want to have space action and adventure, some space opera. But also have some lighter fare and also some straight old-fashioned horror. All things that the original series did that fell out with serialized drama.
You wrote and directed the first episode. Did you take a deep dive into the original sacred text and binge all three and a half original seasons before you started writing?
Goldman: All I can say is that for me, it’s not a deep dive. It’s the thing I watched when I was growing up, every night at six o’clock on WPIX, channel 11 in New York. Over and over and over again. It was the place I went when I couldn’t tolerate what was going on in my house with my parents or the oddness that I must have emanated to my deeply limited group of friends. So, I kind of knew all the episodes already. I’ve seen every episode of the original Star Trek many, many times. I mean, my first Star Trek convention was in 1975. So, it’s in my DNA.
Okay, the most important question: Have you sat in the captain’s chair?
Goldman: I have indeed. But, weirdly, it’s actually more fun watching other people sit in it. And on our set, everybody sits in the captain’s chair at least once.
“Star Trek: Strange New Worlds” premieres on Paramount+ on May 5.